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READ IT SPREAD IT!!!

Journal Entry: Sun Nov 18, 2007, 11:32 AM
Read it, spread it!

Found it on 's and 's journal, and on many others... well... I agree


Found this in 's journal; this is extremely relevant to anyone who's interested in being an artist. I've not been able to find the author.

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Every day, there are more and more Craigs List posts seeking “artists” for everything from auto graphics to comic books to corporate logo designs. More people are finding themselves in need of some form of illustrative service.

But what they’re NOT doing, unfortunately, is realizing how rare someone with these particular talents can be.

To those who are “seeking artists”, let me ask you; How many people do you know, personally, with the talent and skill to perform the services you need? A dozen? Five? One? …none?

More than likely, you don’t know any. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be posting on craigslist to find them.

And this is not really a surprise.

In this country, there are almost twice as many neurosurgeons as there are professional illustrators. There are eleven times as many certified mechanics. There are SEVENTY times as many people in the IT field.

So, given that they are less rare, and therefore less in demand, would it make sense to ask your mechanic to work on your car for free? Would you look him in the eye, with a straight face, and tell him that his compensation would be the ability to have his work shown to others as you drive down the street?

Would you offer a neurosurgeon the “opportunity” to add your name to his resume as payment for removing that pesky tumor? (Maybe you could offer him “a few bucks” for “materials”. What a deal!)

Would you be able to seriously even CONSIDER offering your web hosting service the chance to have people see their work, by viewing your website, as their payment for hosting you?

If you answered “yes” to ANY of the above, you’re obviously insane. If you answered “no”, then kudos to you for living in the real world.

But then tell me… why would you think it is okay to live out the same, delusional, ridiculous fantasy when seeking someone whose abilities are even less in supply than these folks?

Graphic artists, illustrators, painters, etc., are skilled tradesmen. As such, to consider them as, or deal with them as, anything less than professionals fully deserving of your respect is both insulting and a bad reflection on you as a sane, reasonable person. In short, it makes you look like a twit.

A few things you need to know;

1. It is not a “great opportunity” for an artist to have his work seen on your car/’zine/website/bedroom wall, etc. It IS a “great opportunity” for YOU to have their work there.

2. It is not clever to seek a “student” or “beginner” in an attempt to get work for free. It’s ignorant and insulting. They may be “students”, but that does not mean they don’t deserve to be paid for their hard work. You were a “student” once, too. Would you have taken that job at McDonalds with no pay, because you were learning essential job skills for the real world? Yes, your proposition it JUST as stupid.

3. The chance to have their name on something that is going to be seen by other people, whether it’s one or one million, is NOT a valid enticement. Neither is the right to add that work to their “;portfolio”. They get to do those things ANYWAY, after being paid as they should. It’s not compensation. It’s their right, and it’s a given.

4. Stop thinking that you’re giving them some great chance to work. Once they skip over your silly ad, as they should, the next ad is usually for someone who lives in the real world, and as such, will pay them. There are far more jobs needing these skills than there are people who possess these skills.

5. Students DO need “experience”. But they do NOT need to get it by giving their work away. In fact, this does not even offer them the experience they need. Anyone who will not/can not pay them is obviously the type of person or business they should be ashamed to have on their resume anyway. Do you think professional contractors list the “experience” they got while nailing down a loose step at their grandmother’s house when they were seventeen?

If you your company or gig was worth listing as desired experience, it would be able to pay for the services it received. The only experience they will get doing free work for you is a lesson learned in what kinds of scrubs they should not lower themselves to deal with.

6. (This one is FOR the artists out there, please pay attention.) Some will ask you to “submit work for consideration”. They may even be posing as some sort of “contest”. These are almost always scams. They will take the work submitted by many artists seeking to win the “contest”, or be “chosen” for the gig, and find what they like most. They will then usually have someone who works for them, or someone who works incredibly cheap because they have no originality or talent of their own, reproduce that same work, or even just make slight modifications to it, and claim it as their own. You will NOT be paid, you will NOT win the contest. The only people who win, here, are the underhanded folks who run these ads. This is speculative, or “spec”, work. It’s risky at best, and a complete scam at worst. I urge you to avoid it, completely. For more information on this subject, please visit [link].

So to artists/designers/illustrators looking for work, do everyone a favor, ESPECIALLY yourselves, and avoid people who do not intend to pay you. Whether they are “spec” gigs, or just some guy who wants a free mural on his living room walls. They need you. You do NOT need them. Say NO to free art.

And for those who are looking for someone to do work for free…;please wake up and join the real world. The only thing you’re accomplishing is to insult those with the skills you need. Get a clue.

If you agree with the above important information, please pass it along. The more people know, the faster we can correct this problem.

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  • Current Age: 14
  • Current Residence: Alert Air Force Base in Canada
  • Interests: sketching, zombie slaying
  • Favourite movie: American Hardcore
  • Favourite band or musician: Red Hot Chili Peppers
  • Favourite genre of music: Metal, Death Metal, German Metal, Techno, Ska
  • Favourite artist: Banksy,Billy Martinez, Jhonen Vasquez, Mark Bagley
  • Favourite poet or writer: Karl Marx, Stan Lee, George Orwell,Jolly Roger
  • Favourite photographer: Umm..........
  • Favourite style or digital art: Graffitti
  • Operating System: Windows 2000
  • MP3 player of choice: Ipod Video
  • Shell of choice: .38 PIE Incindeary Explosion
  • Wallpaper of choice: Communism
  • Skin of choice: Umm...Rhino?
  • Favourite game: Fable
  • Favourite gaming platform: Xbox
  • Favourite cartoon character: Magneto
  • Personal Quote: " I like to take toothpicks and throw them into the forest and yell YOUR HOME!"
  • Tools of the Trade: HB pencil,Sharpies,Spraypaint,Xacto knives

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~Franchesco:iconFranchesco: Apr 7, 2008, 3:07:06 AM
Thanks for spreading the word on the IRIS Highres Challenge, by faving her!

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*estrellita7:iconestrellita7: Apr 6, 2008, 4:05:03 AM
Hey, thanks a lot for the :+fav:s! :)

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~LynnRPG:iconLynnRPG: Mar 15, 2008, 10:45:12 AM
I thought he was some pedophile because he kept looking at the kids on the block, but it turns out he's my new neighbor.

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~der-king:iconder-king: Mar 13, 2008, 10:22:35 PM
where was he? was he just a hobo or did he have hiking clothes or a leather jacket on? most important did he have a crowbar or a gun on him?!?

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~LynnRPG:iconLynnRPG: Feb 10, 2008, 6:01:32 PM
so i think this guy is preparing for zombies to come. he's been riding in circles on his bike with a backpack all day. its creepy.

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*thelearningcurv:iconthelearningcurv: Jan 18, 2008, 3:44:33 AM
your wildstyle ink is hot=] i am working on a piece like that now but it's not as intricate=] one day=]

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~Duck-26:iconDuck-26: Jan 5, 2008, 1:45:05 PM
thank you very much for the :+fav:

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=moorose:iconmoorose: Dec 23, 2007, 8:35:12 PM
HAPPY HOLIDAYS RANDOM DEVIANT!!!
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=Webreever:iconWebreever: Dec 3, 2007, 4:59:07 PM
Thanks for the fave of Who Do You Follow?!

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~emmatheemu:iconemmatheemu: Dec 2, 2007, 6:38:29 PM
Ew it's muffin boi.
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I miss art class. ;A;

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~LynnRPG:iconLynnRPG: Nov 27, 2007, 4:20:01 PM
my school's new way of trying to get people to stop ditching is spray painting all over the floor of the school : RETHINK. MISS SCHOOL. MISS OUT. in neon green.

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=akme:iconakme: Nov 27, 2007, 4:52:03 AM
cheers for the fav :)
=truemarmalade:icontruemarmalade: Nov 12, 2007, 10:18:42 PM
Thanks for the watch!

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~der-king:iconder-king: Nov 12, 2007, 8:53:05 PM
wow ur all welcome!!!!!

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=noxiousone:iconnoxiousone: Nov 4, 2007, 10:31:21 AM Mood: Joy
thanks for the watch bro :)

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~HayztehBakuOtaku:iconHayztehBakuOtaku: Oct 20, 2007, 7:07:53 PM
Thanks for the fav! :D

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~duyvu:iconduyvu: Oct 7, 2007, 8:39:31 PM
thanks for the +fav
~AccessThyme:iconAccessThyme: Oct 6, 2007, 10:41:16 PM
lol thanks for adding Jesus hair DK :D see ya in art class...sooner or later

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~phantom612:iconphantom612: Oct 6, 2007, 5:37:52 PM
Thanks for the +watch, man

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=truemarmalade:icontruemarmalade: Oct 6, 2007, 7:48:14 AM
Thanks yo!

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~der-king:iconder-king: Oct 5, 2007, 8:36:54 PM
ur welcome

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~desir-unu:icondesir-unu: Oct 5, 2007, 10:12:42 AM
thank u for the add!
~Captain-Salty:iconCaptain-Salty: Sep 5, 2007, 4:55:32 PM
Thank you for the add. :D

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*BlackWidow90:iconBlackWidow90: Jul 6, 2007, 1:11:18 AM
Thank you so much for adding my "Tattoo Hand Design" to your favorites n_n It means a lot!

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